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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 I was one of the founding members of Nightmare Market and have been part of World Market until very recently, when Lovelace suddenly cut ties with me and refused to give me the money I am owed. So now I am blowing the whistle on these assholes! For those who don't know, Lovelace (Admin of World) was part of Nightmare Market from the start and one of the main benefactors of the exit scam. At this point there was some disagreements between the old Nightmare team which split and went to form two new separate markets. One was Royal Market (many people already worked this out) the other was World Market. They launched at similar times, makes sense right! Royal Market just sucked at marketing. Exit scam money from Nightmare was used to launch World Market which is why it had adverts fucking everywhere from the start. Most new startups dont have this kinda funding and dont grow this quickly. Think about it! The plan from the start was to exit scam within 2 years while setting up a new market then rinse and repeat the process. Lovelaces new market launched a few weeks ago and it is already spending a load of money on advertising. IT IS KERBEROS MARKET! Note some similarities between the two markets when you look closely as some of the terms and conditions. They try to make it look super different otherwise though. Now Darkode is gone, World is preparing to exit Lovelace +_team are ready to start scamming all over again with Kerberos Market. Jacking up the vendor bond to $3k is a quick way for World to make a quick buck knowing that some vendors will be desperate enough to pay. DO NOT PAY! World won't stick around for more than a few months - as soon as Kerberos is big enough they are gone and so is all your money! Mods like makarov are already working on both markets! Dont think just cause the site had a makeover recently that its not going anywhere! This reskin was ready 6 months ago, I fucking helped make it. It was saved for a later date to make it look the loads of investment was going into the site to trick vendors and buyers. Dont be naive! Selective scamming by the market has been happening for ages but mostly targeting small vendors and first time buyers. Literally tens of thousands of dollars stolen this way already. Lost deposits, accounts locked, disputes lost by vendors but customers never receiving money back (makarov is specialist at this). Oh and to the admins of Archetyp, Bohemia, ASAP and AlphaBay you wanna know who been ddosing you lately? If you hadnt guessed by now WORLD MARKET! They paying guys every day to fuck you! They were attacking Darkode too but no need any more! /u/YosemiteGhostWrite /u/Bohemia /u/LeChacal /u/DeSnake You can call all of this FUD if you want but ask yourself why everything makes sense. If Lovelace didnt betray me I would never be posting this, but fuck him. I want his empire to crumble. Of course World will deny eveything but they know everything I say is 100% true. This is not a Q&A so I not saying any more after this but time to set the record straight! This post probably get removed soon so screenshot before World pays off Dread admins to take it down. Signed post with Nightmare Market PGP which only a few people ever had access to. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEnd4q0tCntFyXd4QEdH0N/JyM3psFAmIY2jIACgkQdH0N/JyM 3pusvw/8C5Enx/gJmVDpwRd+5lqj2/+5Sb0DiKIDjpmdmali8An8hLzdLx7jk4RH S//QbWD0dvJ0XNhnPsyBRXgodyBFu+iX4sxLVV0shT+IUrhQiuCXn+vq7TYlYTJb grTWDy5rdH0a65pCSvTzCM4GMXKHyxZut8nbMkDtsjuqHgHdxbtOW9pGJvGdK33A HtoGqNQg7SPIrWzFC0+X1g9p5YPUVGPnPIioguUkk+0zD5bo1QIvPF7LDff2fLgC CpxTM+bTb4oq4yKflFI8XXQsPCNKs+elLhdpE8U0LUlrhDVMczstbLN1my5OzmRX Db437BDjZzA3eOxun8T2/QQr2NrkunmO1f2y14H7JxO9WWyOD7jG71QheDpXD4D1 FecfTACzcDBDBblLI0Qi2EaCVwfjgu8o1uVptp3QM0EoGN9P7ogEFz3dIaTxvEYY GcBoxIA2MZTn3cC1se2SOSmPzya2FEX+EBXh1BdletGWHE+1x/BJqfPnc8plXJ9g mMz8a33GzZ3ZOJ4eQc+xgOCnHz97+29S5DSAi8gsr6lFBl/QdRUfhZwv/SfCN4FJ YXjHrT1qCOT7wPa0YRwipNsFurKw0ewYD2RCLUW5S4Kx4YWfFlxdZe+Afc5m7G7a TYTwUuPS4jxChfrMzXqGTWXpoz+zh+JIgyxCj4LUgjzXickqbTw= =cXJ1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Apparently many onion service admins knew this.
Per Versus staff William Gibson:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Message to all Vendors, everywhere. This is HugBunter, you are receiving this message as it has been distributed to markets for the security of yours and your buyers' funds. World Market has been identified as being behind the latest DoS attacks, including the attacks against Dread. I have independantly verified it and there is undeniable evidence of them running past exit scam markets such as Icarus, they plan to repeat this process over and over. To reduce the chances of this in the future I will be taking steps to have basic requirements for markets, however right now, this situation needs to be handled delicately as to avoid as much damage in loss of funds as possible. Once I out them, they will indefinitely exit scam and the DoS attack against Dread will likely increase as a result of this. I will be using my Reddit sub /r/DreadAlert as a communication channel if we remain down. After some hours, I will make all of this known and will be ensuring they are permanently offline to reduce the chances of them taking extra funds. Please take advantage of the time now and withdraw your funds and contact any buyers on World market through encrypted messages to try keep this out of their sight in the build up to this. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEYTOs4fS4fFHb8/6l6GEFEPmm6SIFAmAepvUACgkQ6GEFEPmm 6SJQ/w/+Lyn4YVEeCeRhFHYunLvefL7nAflpO5jaYOA+7qT+pBaLUAVPrXHkl6DC frEjOLntod8rGwZRf74pxg3btzhhAM/64UlLmbOluTC8Bh+sd2Drx9H4STcHKo+i pnA7H18tRg2NamqByY++RGbH6PmsXv0gFlI9Xj62hhsWPBgT0pk3F60SoFWK43U/ ll7KcS6G/PMksuSM1B4Wq6Tn7PqIrt5C8dwxjt4IyVVKRwNK9X36uZ8sbRbWi8he SXu40IiyVAGbNx4xc3utniz+iTgmB/GaaqxoY5cAKGzmaQVKXiqFh0t9zwL7PGRU c6/c/9xaQzZra6CaHwHCr3SneLJEinWffw6ksz73bxD7Ol9Fp1FefRILfUZ84leN yx44G7d70EiDvc4Bs2T50PDPFmEmBYgy3+HzTxxaVebN2V4/75BApFAlqwGUAZjQ CY8ocsOfbTWPdCl1fySUk8ZSm4QLG0J897acYLD7apVIdlhrdCMBS1IJ2k4zrVfv N3+JFExWR4uTyjBM8X8xcgPyU2q52vydjxQuevNKQVY8XN8wl+lWPkKkuiK6J7rl vkgdkM9sYxp36zfW5rV/KCA3nsbvpMcxJtOZICz7kgW3Rx/qjCFnzoegssOeOvUD wooCAOM+MNbfypClcSdbWacYdY7zvXNys701Waju6IM7z9t0RUQ= =BFhy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
“that being said for all you know I could have paid /u/nightmaremarket to say those things. Me or any other market admin or really anybody with a grudge. So what makes this post some kind of “evidence” when its just the same intel that flows around and what everybody knows for a year now? I mean you see my point right? At this point its actually really funny and I am not even mad at all. I was though when hug left us with this message and our dicks in our hand looking like idiots trying to defame the competition while he lifted their ban without any kind of discourse - locked post.”
I believe Gibson is talking about action taken by Dread against World Market (which appears to be the banning of the market’s subdread).
DeSnake (Alphabay administrator) also knew about this.
I can confirm the information you have said is what is known and has been discussed many times, I have personally discussed and shared with Paris that World are/were in the same group/loosely affiliated Royal Market. Part of that group was also the DDoSer parchezzi. They are all the same cloth. Also that Lovelace is in fact Octavian (Pax Romana market that exit scammed). On a side note that information that he is Octavian I gave to Dark0de too before and what did they do? They spammed World market accounts with that same information. That is part of how I knew both of these markets are engaged in DDoSing and attacking each other.
I previously publicly stated on Dread there are two markets that are actively DDoSing - World and Dark0de. More of what I have said is coming to light.
Actually the team behind World have another 2 markets which I strongly believe to be them in disguise based on backend response similarities, language structuring and overall manners. But as the original poster said they do try to make it as different as possible.
Also, the administrator of DarkBay/dBay–who has not been active on Dread in seven months–commented on the thread.